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Without further ado, the great Rabbi Moshe Walter, welcome to the Motivation Congregation podcast.
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Thank you.
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Thank you for having me.
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It's very exciting to talk with you.
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So what I know about you, just to introduce you to the audience, I looked into you for a little bit to figure out if everything is what they say about you is true.
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I have written.
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I found in Rabbi Aron Lopensky's introduction that he says that Rabbi Walter himself is a paradigm of menschlichheit and most appropriate that he brings the Torah to the public's attention.
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And I know also that you're fluent in a lot of Shas and Poskim.
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If you don't mind me asking where you attended yeshiva when you were younger, I find it interesting.
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Sure, sure, sure, it's a multifaceted background.
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I went to pretty standard high school.
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I went to MTA.
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That's where my career began.
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I attended Yeshiva Rakotel after high school.
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I then found myself in Wayu for several years and after that I went to the Mir Yeshiva in Yerushalayim where I spent many, many years.
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I lived in Yerushalayim for close to 10 years.
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I learned primarily in the Mir's kol?
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Ol in Yerushalayim, but I also was in many other kol?
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Ol in Yerushalayim as well during my time there.
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Wow.
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So who did you learn on during there Tisrael, if you don't mind me, who were the rabbis?
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So most of my time I really, truth is really, from a very young age I had an affinity for halacha and learning Ali B'dahil Chassah.
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So even in Bais Medrash, whatever Masechta I was learning, I always found myself learning Rambams and Shulchan Aruch and Tur Bais Yosef.
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So I always had a strong affinity, trying to understand how exactly Psak Halacha worked and what emerged from the sugiyas and organizing the sugiyas in that fashion and what emerged from the sugyas and organizing the sugyas in that fashion.
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So really my entire tenure in Kol HaNir Shalem for about 10 years was very much focused on halacha, learning halacha.
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So I was in many different halacha chaburas throughout my time In the Mir Yeshiva, outside the Mir Yeshiva, starting at Kol, also in Yerushalayim.
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So the primary amount of time was really in many, many halacha chaburas.
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But I spent a lot of time with Gedol HaRabban and Gedol HaPosk and I was very much influenced by Ramat Siodaich, the Rav Ramat Shlomo spent time with Rav Yisrael Gans and some other, rav Ram Kershman, rav Rav Eleichter.
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I was able Baruch Hashem to moshamish many great people and learning with many great people.
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So that was a lot of my time was spent in that area.
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Wow, I know also that you were neighbors with the Folds.
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Big shout out to them.
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Because, my Fold right.
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He's one of the secrets that he can right.
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Very good, very good, yeah, regards.
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So you are a Mechaber, sfarim.
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You author great Jewish literature.
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I've only recently come across your books, when in this making of a mensch and this came to my attention.
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But I would like to ask you to talk about.
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This is not your first book.
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How many books have you authored?
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How did you get into writing Sfarim, and what are they normally about?
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Good question I really.
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The answer is I never intended to write Svarum.
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They just sort of developed organically.
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I'm not sure if I was a good writer or not a good writer.
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When I was younger I liked reading and I enjoy writing, but I never considered myself a particularly focused writer.
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What happened is actually interesting.
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Sort of like any journey.
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This was totally unplanned and unprepared, just like my plan of being an artist yourself for about 10 years was unplanned.
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It was just similar.
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This was not a journey that I sat down to be an author to write books.
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That was out of the picture.
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That was nothing that I ever considered.
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But, as I mentioned before, I always liked organizing, putting things together and writing things up.
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So any of my learning I have notes and a good portion of what I was learning and they were always very organized worked through.
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What happened is that I guess somewhere toward the end of I don't know my tenure in Eretz Yisrael, I started writing a lot of Klal Ehorah and Peskei Halacha, or just organizing how exactly the methodology of Halacha works, the history, understanding how the Bais Yosef worked, whether the Bais Yosef was influenced from going through a lot of the Hagadamas, of the G'doli, rishonim, g'doli, aposkim and sort of, found that I had a very good, pretty decent understanding of how the Rambam, how the Shulchan, aruch, the Tur, the Bais, yosef, the Levosh, the Ramah were trying to organize their codes of Jewish law.
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And as I organized and as I spoke to people I gave shurim, I saw that this was something that was fascinating to people.
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It was fascinating to kolagais who are learning halacha, who really didn't understand exactly how the system worked.
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It was fascinating to rabbanim, to poskim and to really beginners trying to understand and to appreciate how the halachic process works.
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And before I knew it I collected, you know, hundreds and hundreds of pages of usodos in the halachic process and before I knew it it really was something that was prepared to be a safer and I was a young guy, nobody knew me and I tried peddling the work.
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I actually wrote everything.
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How old were you?
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How old were you, how old are you, when this happened?
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I was probably 32, 32 or so, 32 and change, and I really, like I said, I wrote everything by hand.
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I didn't have a, I didn't have a computer, I did not know how to type.
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Everything was written by hand.
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So if I lost it, it's gone.
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Like many swarm were lost over the Doros yeah, that was lost.
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Many, many swms were lost over the Doros.
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The Adi Gubanarade was lost.
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Many Svarms were lost, burnt in fires and like.
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So I held them like they were gold and I had this manuscript of papers and I was peddling it to see if anybody would be interested in publishing it.
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So when I was in the mirror I hired somebody to type all of my work.
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I found somebody to type all my work and it was all organized.
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And you know, like a young guy trying to find somebody to be interested in publishing, this was not so easy.
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So I went to all the classical, well-known publishers and they were totally uninterested.
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They didn't think this was a sale, they want to make money and they didn't think this would be a moneymaker and beyond that, they didn't think the topic was something that was Shabbaleth called.
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They didn't think this was something that would interest women, children and would be comfortable Shabbos afternoon bedtime reading.
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So I get a lot of no's, no after no, after no after no, until one publisher saw that they felt that this could be something of interest, and Baruch Hashem.
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I brokered a deal with a publisher called Menucha and they showed interest in the Sefer and we worked together to put it into book form.
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And baruch Hashem.
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It was extremely successful.
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The first printing sold out.
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We reprinted it again and that sold out, and now I'm very proud that we brought it to Feldheim and now Feldheim just republished it and printed it again.
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So, after a lot of hard work and unpreparedness, that's how the first Safer developed.
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I mean, this is officially a motivation podcast.
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I love that story because of the idea of it.
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Just everything came together and people gave you no's at the beginning.
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That is so.
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It's almost hard to understand now that nobody was interested.
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You know, back then in the first book it was about what problem did you solve by publishing that book?
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What was the goal?
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So certainly the goal was clarifying for people and there is a lot of unclarity there how Pesach works, where did the Shulchan Aruch get his Torah from?
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And there are a lot of.
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If you'll see the Sefer, the Shulchan Aruch himself had an enormous amount of challenges to the Shulchan Aruch.
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Many people, many Gadol Yisrael, felt that the Shulchan Aruch was not a Sefer that should be used Just like the Rambam Sefer.
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People challenged Gadol Yisrael challenged so everybody.
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If you're talking about motivation, g'dol Yisrael were challenged throughout the Doros, including their Sepharim.
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So the Shulchan Aruch was not a Sefer that was in the Scabal right away.
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The Beis Yosef was a Chiddish.
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What the Beis Yosef did, collecting the sheftas of the Rambam, the Rif and the Rambam did this was never the goal.
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In Kala Yisrael, tar Shabal Peh meant Tar Shabal Peh, that it's supposed to be oral law.
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It wasn't meant to be written down.
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Of course, the Mishnah Yisrael and Chazal wrote the Talmud and we organized and put it together because that was a necessity.
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But certainly this was never the intention that there should be an organized canon that everybody should be able to be accessing.
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So why is it?
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What is it?
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How does it work?
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What's the basis of the psach and the mechaber.
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How could the rambam argue on the mechaber and who is the mechaber to decide psach alacha?
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And how could the mechaber often argue on the rambam?
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Does the mechaber argue on the rambam?
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When does the rambam and how does?
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The synergy between this farm and the history of this farm and how exactly that developed is something that we try to do and Baruch Hashem.
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It's something that people who are not involved at all and interested really altogether in halach and Jewish law are able to understand that there is a rhyme and reason, there's a method to the madness, and those who are learning halacha can also appreciate exactly how it is that we organize psak halacha, how Rabbanim are able to work with piskal halacha, how to weigh difference farm, how to understand what's a halacha, what's a minag?
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What's a khurma?
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What's ikra ad-din?
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What does it mean that a baal nefesh is machmir?
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When can you be mekel?
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Should you be mekel?
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And the gamut of different background, the underpinnings of halacha, is something that is very much focused on in the Sefer.
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It takes it from just a yellow book, a phone book of just laws, and it gives it depth.
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So you're the rabbi guy, you're the poisek, you're somebody that's mastered this, but that's not why we called you in today.
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We called you in today because you have written three books, and the first two books that you wrote correctly, if I'm wrong are about halacha and how all that goes down the making of a halachic decision.
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The second one is called the Making of a Minhug, which also fascinates me.
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I don't know how Minhug and company made, but if you're the Halacha guy, how is it and why is it that you came all of a sudden to kind of switch towards a different thing, which is the making of a mensch?
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That's Midas.
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Midas ain't Halacha.
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So how did you come into that?
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That's a great question.
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I appreciate that question.
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It's a very important question.
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The answer actually is exactly the same way.
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And what people don't appreciate enough is that the same way there's halacha for benadum l'makom, there's also halacha for benadum l'chavera.
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And the same rigor and the same lundus and the same lumdis and the same sugyas.
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And the same way that Gedol Ha'aposkim and Gedol Ha'achronim and Rishonim analyze a sugya, whether it's in Hilchot Shabbos, whether it's in Erevim, whether it's in Yivamus or any of the Bava Kamabom Tziya, bava Basra, the same thing is true benadum l'chavera.
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And the goal of the Sefer, the making, the man Shehilchot Ben Adon L'chavero, is really to show that the same analysis, the same Abai and Rava in Bav Mitzia, is also the same Abai and Rava in any sugya in Ben Adon L'chavero.
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You know Shavuos is coming, so you have your five Dibros Ben Adon L'macham and your five Dibros Ben Adon L'chavero.
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They Habero, they're the same thing.
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And very often people have a sense that Ben Adel Machaber is just like for the nice guys and it's not really important, it's not a stress and we're often very hyper-focused on Ben Adel Machaber.
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The out-of-towners, but we should be.
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We should be focused on Ben Adel Machaber and we need to try to develop the same sensitivities and the same approach and understanding for Bein Adon HaKavera as we do for Bein Adon HaMakom.
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And the truth is, if you go back through generations, the challenge is that there's no sif and simet for Bein Adon HaKavera.
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If you go through Daal Chalkei, shoch, narech, so you could find very clear places where the halacha exists, whether it's Gittin and Kiddushin, it's in Eben Hezer, whether you're looking in Chalash HaMishpat for all forms of interpersonal areas of halacha, but there's no specific place to look for the halachas, ben and l'chare.
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So there were G'dolei HaKoram who authored such a sharam.
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There's a sefer called Amitzus HaLevavos.
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He was a Rav who lived in the vicinity of Briskim.
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Chaim Briskim gave him a skam.
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There's a Sefer called Shulchmerach Lamidos Orach Meisharem.
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So Gedoli HaPolskim did write Sfarim on B'nai Adam L'Chaveri because there was the understanding that this is an area that needs chizuk.
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That's an area that needs focus and attention.
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People need to understand much better that the same analysis and halacha and lundus also exists in the area of ben adam l'chavero, and the same way we analyze any sugi and shas, that also is true when it comes to ben adam l'chavero.
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So one of the goals of the sermon is to show people that any question, any issue ben adam l'chavero needs to be analyzed, needs to be focused on, needs to shayla's, needs to be asked, and that's really what the Sefer comes to do, the same way that there's a very, very clear approach and focus and stress in Bein Adon Mamakom.
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If you're learning Hilchot Shabbos, if you're learning, like I said, hilchot Erivin or anything that you're learning, the post can also address these areas of Halacha identically and we just need to know how to learn them.
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I don't necessarily find that halacha applies to loving thy neighbor as thyself.
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How is it possible to codify, give exact parameters of loving your neighbor as thyself?
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So you're going to have to read the chapter in the book about that.
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But the mitzvah of Avos Reim.
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I did.
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I found there's a right.
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Is there a makhlokas?
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Rambam and rambam, yeah, yeah the major, major makhlokas.
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We showed him how to learn the push-up shot in the pasuk famous ramban.
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And there's a sheet to the rambam, there's a smag, there's a smack and all the monia mitzvah.
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Try to understand what the getter of that mitzvah is.
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What does it mean to love somebody?
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How do you fulfill that?
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What are you supposed to do?
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So the Rambam enumerates a way to do that.
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The Ramban enumerates a way to do that.
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But the same way that we try to uncover pshat in Bor and in Shein and in Regel, you also have to understand how am I able to fulfill a mitzvah, diareisa of Haftorei HaKamacha, the mitzvah of Aser Haim.
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So the posk addressed that, the Rishonim addressed that, the Monimitzvahs addressed that, the Akhronim addressed that there's a marasha, there's gemaras about this, there's five or six gemaras in Shas where the Pasuk of Haftal Rech has brought and you have to understand those gemaras, learn those gemaras and understand what the Chazal are teaching us about the Mitzvah Haftal Rech HaKamocha.
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Hillel of course, told the Ger who wanted to convert whatever is hateful to you, you yourself should not do to others.
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So Hillel understood that that was the most critical thing that any convert needs to know before coming is the mitzvah after Echad Kamorcha.
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So certainly we need to understand how to fill that.
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You're talking now in the time of Sefer HaOmer and the importance of as an am and as a nation and as a people.
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So the mitzvah after Echad Kamocha is a critical mitzvah Now if you want to know how to fulfill it, so it doesn't just mean say I love you, you have to know how to fulfill that mitzvah.
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What is that mitzvah?
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The Rambam, the Numereitz, the Levayas, the Hameis are all b'ch looking out for somebody, escorting somebody out of your house, calling somebody, texting somebody, showing interest in somebody, feeling for somebody, listening to somebody, talking to a person.
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All of those are.
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So yes, we need to know that that's a, but we also have to know how to apply that.
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And is it a mitzvah of the Risa?
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Is it a mitzvah of the Rabbana?
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When is it a mitzvah of the Risa?
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When is it a mitzvah of the Rabbana?
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You know I'll tell you something which might interest you and your listeners.
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You know, I would say the majority of my day, maybe week or month, as a rabbi is probably spent dealing with people and people's problems and adversity family feuds, neighbors fighting differences between parents and children, parents not talking to kids, kids not talking to parents.
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There are so many makhloksem, whether it's community makhloksem, whether it's family makhloksem, whether it's differences of opinion, people not talking to each other.
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It's clear that what lies at the heart and a big focus of what we're seeing and what I'm dealing with is all in the world of Ben Adon HaHavira and therefore there's no question that there needs to be a focus on how to treat others and how to care for others, and everybody has the right attitude.
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You know, when I said in the Dintara, there are two sides.
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There are always two sides.
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How clear is it ever that A is right and B is wrong?
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I can tell you from significant experience sitting on Dinai Torah the truth lies somewhere in the middle.
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It's rare, if ever, that it's so obvious that one person is 100% correct and the other person is not.
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So we're people, people are people, life is life, and we bump heads and we have issues with each other.
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Whether you're in yeshiva, in the base medrash, whether you're in a office setting, whether you're in a family setting, wherever you are, people express feelings, emotions.
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I shouldn't have said what I said.
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Maybe I should have said something instead of keeping quiet.
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Maybe I should have been more careful about doing something that I didn't do.
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Maybe I shouldn't have done that.
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There are so many interactions that we have throughout the course of the day.
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It's unbelievable how many times that I insult somebody.
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I didn't even realize I insulted somebody, or I could have helped somebody.
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I never helped somebody.
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So I think one of the ways where we could sort of strengthen ourselves is by recognizing that the Torah speaks to each and every single case.
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You know if you want to follow halacha so there's a code.
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We know how to do that.
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You want to learn Mishnah Baruch, ha'a Harach, hasholchim Chai, adam Kitzel, sholchimach, the gamut of Sfarim.
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So those make us better halachic Jews.
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Those make us better people.
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Because we're following halakh, we're doing what it is that HaKadosh Baruch Hu wants and we're very focused on making sure that we keep every prat ben Adol Macham.
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We don't want to make mistakes and we're very cautious and careful with every area of halakh.
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So the way that we could become better Jews and care for each other more and better neighbors, better friends, better family members, better spouse is if we understand what the halacha expects of us and, very often, if we're able to be in these areas sensitive in these areas, the same way that we're careful and cautious and meticulous in all areas of halacha or a chayim, your edaya heaven ezer.
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You know how many questions do I get in kashrus?
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How many questions do I receive in or a chayim?
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It's constant.
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Everybody's asking shaylas, ben adam l'macham, everybody.
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I could ask you how many questions do you think I get a week ben adam l'machavar?
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How many questions do you think I get a week Ben Adon Machaver?
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How many questions do you think Rabbanim are receiving, ben Adon Machaver?
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So maybe around the Asar, simei Chuvah, there more.
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Should I forgive this person?
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Wanted this person.
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Forgive me, do I have to go out of my way, but there's no question that there's not enough of a focus in this area.
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What role does it play?
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I apologize for interrupting, but I'm struggling to understand.
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Let's say I improve myself, I get better in my mitos.
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I don't believe it's a mitzvah to have good mitos.
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Let me have a poor conduct, poor ethics.
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Maybe my father will ask me to leave the table because I don't have the proper etiquette.
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But is it a mitzvah to have good mitos?
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What role does that play?
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So Reb Chaim Vital asks your question.
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Reb Chaim Vital, the outstanding disciple, the Tal Mufak of the Arizal, asked this question, let's say for Shari Kedusha.
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He asked this question why doesn't the Torah tell us, why doesn't the Torah give us a mitzvah, that every person, every human being, should have good midos?
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That's his shahadah.
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That's a good question.
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That's a really good question.